sinister girl

Friday, February 24, 2006

i think i'm becoming an anti-porn feminist...

believe me, i haven't always been this highly evolved. (har har)

i haven't even truly been a feminist for all that long either. for my first twenty-nine years i walked around in a daze of, "oh, it's not that bad. things aren't as pleasant or fair as i'd like them, but if you can't fight 'em you might as well join 'em." and then i pulled my head out of my ass.

phew! the view is much different out here!

anyway, i have gradually been defining and redefining my feminist perspective over these last few years and i think i've done a 180.

where i used to think of porn and sex work as some version of "grrl power" and women's liberation and sexual freedom and rah-rah-rah, i'm starting to feel much differently about it now. part of it comes with living in a neighborhood where the majority of sex work in this city takes place. and i don't mean strip clubs, i mean real, live women, in urine soaked alleys, sucking some nasty guy's dick for a dollar or a rock or whatever they need for their next fix. and it doesn't look so empowering from this angle.

i've also been reading a lot more on the subject and deciding for myself, from my own moral compass, what i think is beneficial to the well-being and advancement of all women, and pornography and sex work don't seem to fit into that picture.

so with that, here are some links to some fascinating reads i've had lately, depressing though they may be. and remember, what you don't know can hurt you so don't remain ignorant to things just because they're ugly or scary. find out for yourself and come to your own conclusions about what's really going on out there.

Rape as control:
So, what do we have so far?

* A culture in which men punish other men for not being masculine
* A culture which says that power is the key to masculinity
* A culture which says that women are acceptable targets for anger
* A culture which says that having sex with women will make you powerful
* A culture which says that women are after your power at all times

Sounds pretty scary huh?

Enter pornography. The one medium which encompasses all of these things on one, easy to consume, orgasm fest. In pornography men see that not only are women acceptable targets, but that they LIKE it that way. In pornography men get to see that women actually enjoy the degrading things that they would hate.

Because see, even though the other things in the list above are scary on their own there is one thing that MUST be present in each and every single rapist. I daresay that rape would go extinct completely if not for this one little thing.

For a man to rape he must see his victim as an object less worthy of emotion and empathy than himself.

And pornography provides that ability to each and every single man who clicks on it. Pornography infuses each and every single category from above in one abusive package. Pornography is a medium of power and of control and it shatters any and all reservations that a man who has fallen prey to the other aspects, may have in raping. In porn he is told that not only are women acceptable targets for his abuse, but also that they like it. They enjoy it, they beg for more of it.

In pornography women not only become objects, they become animals and the men looking at porn not only don’t respect the women but they also come to feel anger towards them. Even progressing to outright hostility. They see men acting in horrific, derogatory ways and they see that the women like it and even deserve it.

How can you defend porn?
When faced with stories like this? Can you honestly sit there and throw away all the women hurt by pornography and sex work so you can kiss the ass of the patriarchy? Don't give me the "but I'm a feminist too" bullshit. It happened to her because she's a woman, no other reason. If you can't see her and see the misogyny rampant in an industry that makes it's money by exploiting women?

[...]

Yep porn is victim free and you should be cheerleading it so that men don't mistake you for a hairy legged prude with sexual hangups because she doesn't acquiesce to men's dehumanisation of women. Sure, fine, go flame away at me, but when you defend porn make sure you know what you're defending. (Note: It's not women's right to be human, it's men's "right" to exploit women.)

Student politics update and a bit on terrorism:
Because it is terrorism. The government is wetting it's pants over jihad loving Muslim fanatics, while everyday, all over the world, women are being raped and abused simply because they are WOMEN. Where is the discussion on incitement to gender hatred? Where are the angry newspaper articles on the crimes of sexist hate, the misogyny motivated attacks, the systematic abuse of one group of people by another based solely on their biological difference? We are shocked and appalled, and rightly so, every time we hear of an anti-semitic or other racially or religiously motivated attack, yet attacks against women are NEVER described as being motivated by gender. She'd been nagging him for years, she slept with another man, she was drunk and abusive, she was asking for it. NEVER do we hear 'she was attacked/abused because she was female'.

i'll admit it's not a lot of lighthearted, happy friday information, but it's something you should think about anyway. and happy friday.

update: i thought i should bring the link to le lyon's post out of the comments and into the discussion.

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13 Comments:

  • Hehe. The hairy legged prude with sexual hangups are a combination of slurs we hear from the pro-porn camp. It's terrifyingly depressing. (both things have been said about me in the blogosphere arguements over porn).

    It's so hard to face all that evidence at once, isn't it. Once you see the connections between sex work, childhood sexual abuse, and rape it's hard to think that anyone could defend these things. All though there's an interestign discussion at anti-pornstitution site Genderberg in the supposrt sections of the forums. It seems like many of us anti=porn feminists were once "sex pos." I myself even did some sex work. That woke me up to the horrors of porn and pornographisztion of women really quick.

    By Blogger lost clown, at February 24, 2006 12:03 PM  

  • oh and if you can handle more, there's a good one at femivist:
    http://lelyons.wordpress.com/

    By Blogger lost clown, at February 24, 2006 12:05 PM  

  • thanks so much for the additional info, i really appreciate it! (even though it's depressing.)

    xoxo, jared

    By Blogger ms. jared, at February 24, 2006 12:51 PM  

  • I was just reading this post...and then the comments...and then I saw a link to my site! Thanks LC =o)! It feels good to be part of the discussion.

    I actually became anti-porn first, and a feminist second. Boy was I SHOCKED when I learned that most feminists are pro-porn. I might have given up on the whole "feminist" thing if I hadn't found women like Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon. I still can't wrap my head around the pro-porn feminists. Excellent post ms. jared. I look forward to reading more on your blog!

    By Anonymous le lyons, at February 24, 2006 1:11 PM  

  • By Blogger GOP Christian, at February 24, 2006 1:16 PM  

  • thanks le lyons. i look forward to reading more of your posts too!

    it really is hard to wrap one's head around a lot of this stuff all at once, you know? i mean, how difficult is it even to say you're a feminist in the first place? the risk involved can be great, depending where you are, ya know?

    i remember i scoffed/bristled at the notion when it was first presented to me. i had been influenced by the "feminists hate men/it's reverse discrimination" crap i was bombarded with growing up in the midwest.

    live and learn. thank goodness!
    xoxo, jared

    By Blogger ms. jared, at February 24, 2006 1:27 PM  

  • le lyons...I just wish I could comment on it on your site. :(

    And there is currently a debate about whether you can be a feminist and support an industry exploitave to women (well, duh)

    By Blogger lost clown, at February 24, 2006 2:12 PM  

  • there certainly is, lost clown.

    i received an email from a woman who made some interesting points that i asked her to share here, but i'm not sure whether or not she will. i hope she does.

    it's still something i'm coming to terms with but i'll admit i'm a newbie at this and no expert by any stretch.

    xoxo, jared

    By Blogger ms. jared, at February 24, 2006 2:19 PM  

  • All it takes is the belief that all women are human. The rest comes naturally.

    By Blogger lost clown, at February 24, 2006 6:53 PM  

  • Like le lyons, I was anti-porn first, then feminist - to start with it was from a purely selfish and personal perspective - I hated my body and self harmed because I didn't look like the women my boyfriend watched in porn and I couldn't/didn't want to do the things they did. Feminism has opened my eyes to the far reaching consequences of porn on the whole of womankind.

    It's great to hear that you're learning and changing perspective and you're right - it is very hard to read all this stuff and to learn all these things and have to live with that knowledge while everyone around you, even so-called feminists - bang on about how cool/empowering/harmless/normal it is.

    Robert Jensen has some really important things to say about porn, often aimed at a male audience. This article really brought home for me why porn is so goddamn awful and rooted in misogyny, but it did make me cry uncontrollably in a roomful of people.

    http://www.bushtelegraph.uk.com/Robert%20Jensen2.htm

    Good luck with teh reading etc, glad I could help :)

    By Blogger Laura, at February 26, 2006 2:28 PM  

  • Le Lyon, Please believe me, most feminists are NOT pro porn. You've been hanging with the wrong crowd! I think you will find most feminists are pro sex, however. :-)

    You only have to spend an hour or two in the real world of porn to figure out it is not empowering, no matter how many erudite people might sit around a coffee shop declaring it to be so.

    In the real world, porn is soul-crushingly depressing, sick, humiliating, and tragic. How many people are putting themselves through college to be pornographers? How many people brag at the family picnic that they are pornographers? How many times have you seen someone on a game show say, hey, I'm a pornographer? It's obviously not something people are proud of, except in their own small sick circle.

    Women are talked into porn in a variety of ways, and once there, some will defend it as their "choice". Those women are responsible for their own actions, I'm more worried about the silent ones who are dying a long slow death inside because they think we don't care about them and that they don't deserve anything better. Those women deserve support and a way out.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at February 28, 2006 9:19 PM  

  • Sinister Girl,

    I thought I should pass on the following, in which I highly recommend your post. The context of this recommendation was a blog entry observing, among other things, how right-wing persons opposed to pornography (for reasons that are anything but feminist) are prone to glomming onto feminists' anti-porn agendas (and then, of course, coopting them). The post may be found here if you are interested.

    Respectfully - Victoria Marinelli

    By Anonymous Victoria Marinelli, at March 01, 2006 11:13 PM  

  • We created a service for adults, that just blocks porn, and it works on all devices.

    http://www.safefromsites.com

    By Anonymous SafeFromSites, at March 03, 2007 2:16 PM  

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