i blame the radical feminists!
it never ceases to amaze me how in 95% of porn and prostitution threads what it all basically boils down to is that radical feminists are the problem. we're just these judgmental, frigid, woman-hating prudes trying to butt into everyone's blissful pornotopia and turning all the otherwise gung-ho women off of feminism altogether.
and even though the 2-10% of "happy hookers" who comment on said posts agree that there is a high risk of violence and abuse by johns involved in sexwork (but only to street prostitutes apparently), the conversation must never ever go there. instead, we must focus solely on how happy and fullfilled and empowered some particular sexworker feels about her career choice and how radical feminists keep pissing in her cheerios by questioning the implications of that choice.
if ninety-five out of a hundred prostituted women suffer rape, abuse and murder at the hands of pimps and johns and want out of the life immediately, we must maintain absolute focus on the five who don't. to do otherwise would be to stifle their sexuality, just as any objection to hooters ads on the back of buses or hustler club ads on the top of taxis is complete censorship (!) of the cock given rights of men everywhere to have titties on display at all times.
it's like the "but DV happens to men too!" conversation. even though only a tiny percentage of men are victims of DV by women, they're the ones we must focus on; they're the only ones we can talk about. if we want to talk about the overwhelming number of women who are abused by men that's an obvious "red herring" that we don't really care about women at all but are actually just full blown man-haters.
and if we want to talk about the deadly violence a vast number of prostituted women face, that's the red-herring that we're just sex-hating prudes.
apparently, if it weren't for us lousy radicals there'd be oh so many more ass-kicking women joining feminist marches, signing feminist petitions, stuffing envelopes, volunteering at DV shelters, fighting for reproductive rights, and so on and so forth. but no. because we can't just keep our mouths shut and accept every single woman's every single choice as feminist and good for the cause - without question - then they're not going to play our reindeer games. they're just going to take their ball and go home, feminists be damned. that's what we get for being bitches.
it was that radical heathen twisty, adored by many and reviled by more, who said "It is either wrong to oppress people or it isn’t. What’s it gonna be, assholes?"
it really is that simple.
and it's absurd how many feminist bloggers have closed up shop, telling us to stick feminism up our asses because someone dared to question whether or not makeup, high heels, BDSM, sexwork, et cetera might be tools of the patriarchy. maude forbid any of us ever have to question or consider the effects of our own behavior, actions, or beliefs. that's just downright oppressive!
seriously though? i don't give a shit if someone doesn't think i'm feminist enough or if my "creds" don't meet their criteria. i judge my feminism for myself. i claim the label for myself and i'll be damned if someone else is going to take it away from me or if i'm just going to hand it over because someone pissed me off or hurt my feelings. what purpose does that serve? who-the-fuck wins in that scenerio? you could tell me all the live long day that i'm not a feminist and i'd tell you all the live long day to go fuck yourself.
but if you want to "turn in your card" or reject feminism because a few individuals offend you for whatever reason, that's your business, just don't blame radical feminists for it. and if you happily participate in sexwork regardless of the consequences that many other women face because of it, don't try to shut us up by claiming that any criticism of sexwork whatsoever is censorship and anti-sex.
and even though the 2-10% of "happy hookers" who comment on said posts agree that there is a high risk of violence and abuse by johns involved in sexwork (but only to street prostitutes apparently), the conversation must never ever go there. instead, we must focus solely on how happy and fullfilled and empowered some particular sexworker feels about her career choice and how radical feminists keep pissing in her cheerios by questioning the implications of that choice.
if ninety-five out of a hundred prostituted women suffer rape, abuse and murder at the hands of pimps and johns and want out of the life immediately, we must maintain absolute focus on the five who don't. to do otherwise would be to stifle their sexuality, just as any objection to hooters ads on the back of buses or hustler club ads on the top of taxis is complete censorship (!) of the cock given rights of men everywhere to have titties on display at all times.
it's like the "but DV happens to men too!" conversation. even though only a tiny percentage of men are victims of DV by women, they're the ones we must focus on; they're the only ones we can talk about. if we want to talk about the overwhelming number of women who are abused by men that's an obvious "red herring" that we don't really care about women at all but are actually just full blown man-haters.
and if we want to talk about the deadly violence a vast number of prostituted women face, that's the red-herring that we're just sex-hating prudes.
apparently, if it weren't for us lousy radicals there'd be oh so many more ass-kicking women joining feminist marches, signing feminist petitions, stuffing envelopes, volunteering at DV shelters, fighting for reproductive rights, and so on and so forth. but no. because we can't just keep our mouths shut and accept every single woman's every single choice as feminist and good for the cause - without question - then they're not going to play our reindeer games. they're just going to take their ball and go home, feminists be damned. that's what we get for being bitches.
it was that radical heathen twisty, adored by many and reviled by more, who said "It is either wrong to oppress people or it isn’t. What’s it gonna be, assholes?"
it really is that simple.
and it's absurd how many feminist bloggers have closed up shop, telling us to stick feminism up our asses because someone dared to question whether or not makeup, high heels, BDSM, sexwork, et cetera might be tools of the patriarchy. maude forbid any of us ever have to question or consider the effects of our own behavior, actions, or beliefs. that's just downright oppressive!
seriously though? i don't give a shit if someone doesn't think i'm feminist enough or if my "creds" don't meet their criteria. i judge my feminism for myself. i claim the label for myself and i'll be damned if someone else is going to take it away from me or if i'm just going to hand it over because someone pissed me off or hurt my feelings. what purpose does that serve? who-the-fuck wins in that scenerio? you could tell me all the live long day that i'm not a feminist and i'd tell you all the live long day to go fuck yourself.
but if you want to "turn in your card" or reject feminism because a few individuals offend you for whatever reason, that's your business, just don't blame radical feminists for it. and if you happily participate in sexwork regardless of the consequences that many other women face because of it, don't try to shut us up by claiming that any criticism of sexwork whatsoever is censorship and anti-sex.
Labels: blogwars, femininity, feminism, phmt, pornstitution, radfems



19 Comments:
I find the 'I'm packing it in because I don't like what x said to me' attitude somewhat immature and it seems as if the intention behind those statements is to make x look bad: 'radical feminists are so nasty that I'm going to have to stop campaigning for women's right and a lot of women will suffer for it.'
Like you, I'm not quitting. No way. There is so much to do.
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asdgasdfaserwe, at August 24, 2006 12:45 PM
yes! passionately and eloquently stated.
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pippi's sister, at August 24, 2006 1:21 PM
exactly, pippi. that's the feeling i get too. it's like, "so and so said such and such so i'm done with feminism! if assloads of women have to suffer because i'm no longer down with the cause, you can blame so and so because she hurt my feelings by calling me on my shit!"
whatever. if it's that easy to discard your commitment to feminism then you obviously weren't that committed in the first place.
i almost gave up on the sisterhood once too and then i was like, WTF?! that's totally ridiculous!
i may give up on a particular woman, but i'm not giving up on the sisterhood!
xoxo, jared
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ms. jared, at August 24, 2006 1:53 PM
if it's that easy to discard your commitment to feminism then you obviously weren't that committed in the first place.
My feelings exactly!
jared - you've done me a huge good tonight. A huge and meaningful good. This post restored me.
Thank you.
You are such a star, you know.
xxx
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witchy-woo, at August 24, 2006 6:11 PM
aww shucks. glad to have done some good for ya, sister!
it does feel good to know you're not all alone in this, doesn't it? it works for me, anyway. :-)
xoxo, jared
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ms. jared, at August 24, 2006 7:24 PM
Thank you so much for this post, Jared. I really needed it. You rock. Love you.
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laurelin, at August 24, 2006 11:44 PM
Jared's mama said
You go girl, I couldn't of said it any better myself. "I might give up on the woman (because yes but can be so annoying) but I will never give up the sisterhood" I will never not take the hand of a sister who is truly a sister, the others use to drive me insane and I wanted to punch their fucking lights out but now I just don't have time. I love you Jared, you truly make life living. Mama
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Anonymous, at August 25, 2006 12:33 AM
That's funny because it's been 'radical' feminists online who have inspired me the most!! :)
I think your post is great, and I'm so glad I found your blog!
Take care,
Z
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Z, at August 25, 2006 12:38 AM
Aw, I heart you!
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verbify, at August 25, 2006 6:22 AM
Right on, right on. The whole "how dare you question my feminist credentials" ploy is usually just to detract from the issue at issue.
People can be kind of mean and aggressive, but hey, that's what comment moderation is for!
Great post.
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Anonymous, at August 25, 2006 6:56 AM
*wild applause!*
Great post.
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spicy, at August 25, 2006 11:04 PM
*wild applause!*
Great post.
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spicy, at August 25, 2006 11:05 PM
Great post, thanks for writing it !
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therealUK, at August 26, 2006 4:28 AM
I don't know if most people would consider me a radical feminist because, for one, there are so many ways to define that term. However, regardless of how someone would label me, I'm with you. There's no way that I'm going to just give up my beliefs based on someone else's opinions about them. That said, I do enjoy being challenged and challenging myself because it helps me decide when my views need adjusting.
Personally, I don't view prostitution as inherently bad. I think that the way it usually occurs is unethical though, and something I can't support. I think by working to eliminate the abuse and violence that usually goes along with prostitution (and pornography), then even those few who are, arguably, non-exploited in their job as sex workers will benefit. So, I think that even if one doesn't find prostitution or pornography wrong one hundred percent of the time, it makes sense to focus on the majority cases and not the exceptions.
Sadly, I've seen many of the sort of labels you mentioned also directed towards those of us feminists who simply do not believe that any particular action should be condemned regardless of the reasons why it occurred. Many of those who I've seen refer to themselves as radical feminists are quite guilty of this.
Personally, I think there is another way. Those who view things like prostitution and pornography as inherently bad can do what they feel necessary in order to eliminate the harm that they see and those who don't view it as inherently bad can support both the sex workers who do feel they are exploited and those who do not. Neither group will accomplish much, I think, by spending their time trying to label prove who is and isn't a feminist (radical or otherwise).
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Bint Alshamsa, at August 26, 2006 9:11 AM
Bint - I think you bring up some brilliant points :) I'm glad to have read what you have to say.
Take care,
Z
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Z, at August 26, 2006 11:44 AM
Like, how many ways can I say, RIGHT THE FUCK ON?!?!?!?!
Oh yes! And I'm IN SF! FOR REALS! :):):):) (And there is sun shining through my window at this very minute for some reason! I hope it lasts at least fifteen!!!)
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Edith, at August 26, 2006 2:06 PM
"and if we want to talk about the deadly violence a vast number of prostituted women face, that's the red-herring that we're just sex-hating prudes."
Brilliant. I've never seen it put better! Oh and the rest of the post was exactly what I needed to read.
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mistermorgan, at August 26, 2006 6:46 PM
I actually advocate a temporary ban on all porn and prostitution posts, just because I'm interested in what else some folks have to talk about. As in, "If we weren't bickering amongst ourselves, what would we all be doing?"
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Veronica, at August 30, 2006 1:18 PM
"Case by case, we find that conformity is the easy way, and the path to privilege and prestige; dissidence carries personal costs.” - Noam Chomsky
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j, at March 16, 2007 7:40 AM
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