male terrorism or "tunnel vision"?
this morning on the early show, they had some jackass on to discuss the latest school shooting and what "parents can do to protect our kids". at one point the interviewer asked him what to make of the fact that girls had been targeted. of course, he ignored the question and responded with how student violence is on the rise. she again asked something to the effect of "but what about the fact that that the last two shootings were by adult males who were not students and had specifically targeted female students?" of course he made a "pshaw!" comment and "reminded her" that a student had killed his principal last week as well so we need to focus on "the big picture" of school violence and not get "tunnel vision" by focusing on the specifics of the female victims.
who commits the majority of violence? men.
who are the overwhelming targets of the violence men commit? women.
who then should we talk about when we talk about violence? why, the male victims of course!
i'm still fuming over it.
talk about clear as fucking day; "connecting the dots" or whatever they call it. why don't we focus on "the big picture" of male violence against women and how we're terrorized daily?
so you don't want to focus on the female victims because that's "tunnel vision"? well lets go ahead and widen the scope to include men then. okay, so what about the men? why the fuck are they raping, abusing, torturing, molesting and killing everybody? why do other men make excuses and cover up for them?
jesus-fucking-murphy. thousands of women and girls are raped, abused, and murdered by men on a daily basis. what about that? can we talk about that please? when will women and girls matter? when will our lives and experiences be more than just "tunnel vision"?
who commits the majority of violence? men.
who are the overwhelming targets of the violence men commit? women.
who then should we talk about when we talk about violence? why, the male victims of course!
i'm still fuming over it.
talk about clear as fucking day; "connecting the dots" or whatever they call it. why don't we focus on "the big picture" of male violence against women and how we're terrorized daily?
so you don't want to focus on the female victims because that's "tunnel vision"? well lets go ahead and widen the scope to include men then. okay, so what about the men? why the fuck are they raping, abusing, torturing, molesting and killing everybody? why do other men make excuses and cover up for them?
jesus-fucking-murphy. thousands of women and girls are raped, abused, and murdered by men on a daily basis. what about that? can we talk about that please? when will women and girls matter? when will our lives and experiences be more than just "tunnel vision"?
ms. jared shits you not at
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one excuse i've heard (which is obviously well-used) is the whole "boys will be boys" idea, which is appalling. i've heard this from men *and* women. i just can't understand how being a guy can equal violent, horny, lazy, self-centered, etc., and that its okay. from a guy's point of view, you'd think that they would want to be seen as a little bit more multi-dimensional and responsible than being summed up by "if i'm not horny, then you can make me a sandwich"*. and i definitely don't understand how our society can think its okay for guys to act this way, and even encourage this type of behavior.
* the quote is from dr. laura. the "you" in the "you can make me a sandwich" part is the wife/woman.
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christina, at October 03, 2006 11:03 AM
Christina, you actually didn't need to explain the YOU in 'you can make me a sandwich'. Lazy bastards don't seem capable of making their own.
Ms J, yeah, (fucking amazing NOT) how the men commiting all this violence against women just *magically* get airbrushed out of the picture. And it's *just co-incidentally* that victims are *just* women and girls. [insert lots of angry swear words here]
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stormcloud, at October 03, 2006 3:23 PM
When will women and girls matter? Yesterday (10/02/06) there was an article that you posted, "Male Terrorism, Todays News: Colorado Gunman Wanted the Girls", a reply from Women's Space/The Margins -The Blog was, as far as I'm concerned, right on. Quote: They have "a small hope that one day as women, we will find our courage, the courage of Antonia, (Antonia's Line) and in so doing will find someway to hold men accountable for the way they relentlessly, intentionally destroy the lives of girls and women, for the way their acts of violence and predation follow us, shadow us, poison the very air we breathe, for all of our lives." If we as women would see to it that men are held accountable for their actions then and only then "will our lives and experiences be more than just "tunnel vision" I love you Jared, things really haven't gotten much better when it comes to men/women relationships since I was born. Men are still doing and (because of the "Good Book" )getting by with everything and anything just like they always have. This is something women have fought over and about since the beginning. I will be so glad we we all as women our courage. To a much better day ladies. Gayle
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Anonymous, at October 04, 2006 2:09 AM
>who commits the majority of violence? men.
TRUE.
>who are the overwhelming targets of the violence men commit? women.
FALSE.
4 in 5 victims of murders committed by men are MEN. Not women. So the "overwhelming targets of the violence men commit" is MEN. Not women.
Enough for demonizing men and keep this pathetic feminist victimism alive. Get a clue.
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Anonymous, at October 04, 2006 2:41 AM
yeah, that's only if you don't count sexual abuse, rape, and domestic violence as violence. i guess you're one of those people who think women should shut up and stop complaining unless we're dead?
and once again you prove the point. men commit the overwhelming amount of violence but to focus on that and say how fucked up it is is "demonizing men".
get this: two men walked into schools and targeted girls for rape, sexual abuse, and murder. men demonize themselves by acting like demons. sounds like YOU'RE the one trying to "victimize" men when they're actually the culprits.
boo-fucking-hoo. poor, poor men.
p.s. i'm not posting your other comment because it's inflammatory bullshit and like i said, *i* consider rape, sexual abuse and domestic violence "violence" so your stats don't meet my criteria. see, i think women have value IN LIFE, not just as murder statistics.
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ms. jared, at October 04, 2006 4:54 AM
Have you noticed the print stories on this (I don't have tv that portal of females being reviled, stalked, beaten, pornified, dismembered--hey no violence here) have focussed on this guy's devastating grief, his broken life, after his baby died? Not the molestations, oh they're mentioned, but in second place, down story. Fuck me I can't take much more.
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Pony, at October 04, 2006 6:48 AM
Actually, it's true. Those most at risk for violence are actually men. Granted, more crimes committed by an intimate or acquaintance are committed against women, but according to the Department of Justice, which includes sexual assault, dv, etc, men still experience more acts of violence than women
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Anonymous, at October 04, 2006 11:42 AM
again, that's not the point of this post. the point is how whenever violence against women/ girls occurs, it's almost ALWAYS perpetrated by men/boys, and then we have to nitpick about who is more abused or erase women entirely from the discussion.
remember, the subject of the interview was the murders/sexual abuse of the amish girls and the girls in colorado, but the "expert" ignored them to focus on "the bigger picture". because women are such an insignificant part of the equation obviously.
i'll take your word for it that men are more at risk of violence than women but whose fault is that? men are violent towards women, children, and other men. THEY are the problem. THEY should fucking stop it.
why is it that since male violence affects men too, they're the only ones we can talk about? again, women's lives and experiences get erased either to excuse male violence or to minimize it by saying "it happens to men too."
apparently things are only worth addressing or discussing if they affect men too, and if that's the case then we should really ONLY talk about the men and leave women out of it, right? gah.
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ms. jared, at October 04, 2006 1:14 PM
See that is exactly what I am talking about. You have "people" out there who want to present men as the victim instead of who the victim really is. If most of the violence done by men is to other men so fucking what. That proves right there that men ARE barbaric fucking animals. If they want to do violence them do it to each other or themselve leave women and girls out of it. Men who prey on women and girls have no excuse for being the fucking jerk offs that they are and in my book are nothing but boo fucking hoo cowards. You can tell that the two who left the "message" about the "demonizing men and keeping this pathetic feminist victimism alive. Get a clue" don't have a clue, if they did they would not of set themselves up to show what uncaring stupid assholes they really are. Talk about not having a clue! What do you bet they have never been victimize themselves by a male and if they have they didn't get it because they are clueless. Please don't get ME started on such clueless, incredible assholes. Gayle
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Anonymous, at October 05, 2006 1:53 AM
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